Death by Environmentalism: How the EPA Contributed to BOTH Shuttle Tragedies

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by William L. Anderson
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Like those who were of age the day John F. Kennedy was assassinated, most people can remember intimate details of what they were doing when they first heard that the space shuttle Challenger had exploded. To compound the tragedy, millions of schoolchildren across the country watched the whole thing in shocked amazement.

The "teacher in space" program that NASA hoped would be a public relations boon to the shuttle program exploded with the shuttle as teacher Christa McCauliffe of New Hampshire was among the seven astronauts who perished when the shuttle disintegrated miles above the earth. While NASA went on to record many more space flights after the Challenger disaster, the program once again was shocked into reality when Columbia blew up in flames just minutes before landing, killing all seven astronauts aboard.

In writing about the latest NASA disaster in the Free Market, I pointed out the problems and depressing realities about socialist space travel. What I did not say was something that is even more depressing: the roots of both disasters were planted in the government's environmental policies. Environmentalism not only killed 14 U.S. astronauts, but it killed them in a most horrible and public way.

As recent news reports have pointed out, the wreck of the Columbia was almost certainly due to a chunk of insulating foam coming loose and hitting some heat-protecting tiles, scattering them and leaving the spacecraft vulnerable to the intense heat it would experience upon re-entry into the earth's atmosphere.

That is all that the mainstream news—and NASA—have been willing to report. What they have not said is that the particular foam that was in use at the time was an environmental substitute replacing a material that had worked well. However, the previous foam used to insulate the Columbia's external fuel tanks contained Freon, which is a chlorofluorocarbon (CFC) that the EPA banned because of the ozone depletion scare.

As Steven Milloy reports, NASA could have sought an exemption. Freon, after all, is inert and nontoxic, and its connection to ozone depletion is tenuous at best. However, having been burned by the EPA once before (as I will point out), NASA succumbed to what Milloy calls "PC foam." He writes, "PC foam was an immediate problem. The first mission with PC foam resulted in 11 times more damaged thermal tiles on Columbia than the previous mission with Freon-based foam."

Furthermore, the damage was obvious—and quite severe. Milloy writes that following the 1997 Columbia mission, "more than 100 tiles were damaged beyond repair, well over the normal count of 40."

I now examine the Challenger explosion, which occurred the week after the Super Bowl in January 1986. As nearly everyone familiar with the catastrophe knows, a set of O-rings that was supposed to keep hot gases trapped in the rocket carrying the shuttle failed, the fuel quickly leaking out and igniting into a fireball shortly after takeoff.

It was an unusually cold morning at Cape Canaveral, too cold for the O-rings to perform properly. That is well-known. What most people do not know is that the material used to make the O-rings was a substitute to replace a product that the Environmental Protection Agency had banned because it contained asbestos.

The original O-rings used between the rocket joints came from an over-the-counter putty that had been used safely and effectively for a long time. However, in its war against the use of asbestos anywhere, anytime, the EPA forbade NASA from using that product at all after the space agency had sought an exemption. The EPA, not surprisingly, refused that request, something that would ultimately lead to the next disaster 17 years later. The new product, not surprisingly, failed and we know the rest of the story.

In normal situations, this would be a scandal of epic proportions. A government agency requires the use of unsafe materials that lead to the very public deaths of 14 individuals. Had a private firm permitted these kinds of unsafe working conditions, the situation would be worthy of a New York Times investigative report. Instead, all we hear is silence, interspersed with "the show must go on" comments about the future of the space shuttle program. Even the news reports on the foam disaster have ignored the reason why NASA used such an unsafe product; in fact, mainstream reporters are not even asking the pertinent questions.

Countless writers on these pages and elsewhere have pointed out the high costs—and low benefits—of environmental laws and regulations. Environmentalism has become a sacrosanct religion of which no questions can even be asked.

Yet, we see once again that applied environmentalism can be disastrous. Granted, we are talking about the lives of "only" 14 people, compared to the hundreds of thousands that have died of malaria following the banning of DDT, which once effectively killed the mosquitoes that carry the disease.

Whether we speak of 14 astronauts, or 14,000 people in a remote African nation, however, we speak of the same thing: death by environmentalism. The verdict is in; environmentalism is not only hazardous to our health, it threatens our very lives.


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Milloy also points out that the EPA in fact did exempt NASA from the CFC reduction in 2001, but that NASA decided to continue using its “environmental-friendly” foam.
 

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Originally posted by Phaedrus:

Yet, we see once again that applied environmentalism can be disastrous. Granted, we are talking about the lives of "only" 14 people, compared to the hundreds of thousands that have died of malaria following the banning of DDT, which once effectively killed the mosquitoes that carry the disease.

Whether we speak of 14 astronauts, or 14,000 people in a remote African nation, however, we speak of the same thing: death by environmentalism. The verdict is in; environmentalism is not only hazardous to our health, it threatens our very lives.
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Yes that's right DDT good. Want some on your breakfast cereal. This whole article is a farce.
 

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Oh boy.

You need to learn some history. In the last year that DDT was used in Ceylon, for example, there were approximately 100 cases of malaria, and for the first time in written records, not one single death from the disease. In 1968, seven years after the ban, there were 2,500,000 cases and over 10,000 deaths.

Do you even know why DDT was banned? Is your answer "because it's bad?" Or do you actually know the history behind the ban? It's somewhat similar to the idiotic ban of cyclamates, a substance which was incredibly beneficial to humans but arbitrarily banned when it was found to create cancer in lab rats (and years later, even the specious research behind those experiemtns was proved false, yet today, cyclamates are still banned, I guess "just in case.")

Please, explain how this article is a "farce."


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Very interesting Phaedrus about the space shuttle disasters - never heard this before and I'll be sure to remember it. EPA has gone way too far.

Please excuse me from the table when you serve your sweet drinks though. I don't trust many things developed in a laboratory as being better for me than what nature itself intended for me to digest and assimulate into my cellular structures. Excuse me and my child as well when the family doctor wants to vaccinate him.

Great post on the Shuttle though.
 

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DDT is very bad for Hamsters, especially boy hamsters.


Syrian golden hamsters were fed for their lifespan a diet containing 0, 125, 250 and 500 parts per million (ppm) of DDT. The incidence of tumor bearing animals was 13% among control females and ranged between 11-20% in treated females. In control males 8% had tumors. The incidence of tumor bearing animals among treated males ranged between 17-28%.


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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe one reason DDT was banned was because your national symbol, the bald eagle, was endanger of extinction because the shells of eggs were weakened and breaking prematurely. I don't have time to do a google search but I'm sure you can find other reasons as well.

As to why the article is a farce, if I undertand the thrust, we should continue to use dangerous materials because we are afraid of innovation?? Is this the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" deal??

You don't maintain a leadership position with that attitude.
 

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Pardon if I get preachy, but this is the way I am sometimes. Any major change has to be considered in the context in which it occurs. In the 1960's and 1970's "doomsday scenarios" were so common that they were falling from the trees. The birth of the eco-warrior brought about more pseudo-scientific prophecies than I could easily enumerate (my personal favourite: the imminent threat of "global cooling." That's right -- a scant three decades ago the same shitheads talking about how we'll all be wearing SPF 9,000,000 any day now were talking about how the world would be covered in glaciers by 1990 -- for the exact same reason that they now say we're all going to burn up by 2020 or whenever.)

Contrary to popularly-held beliefs, there was very very little actual studying done regarding the DDT "crisis." There were the typical anti-progress movements back then as can be seen now, if they were better-mannered, and many people had reservations about the "better living through chemistry" attitude that America developed in the years following WWII.

In the late 1950's, Rachel Carson became the voice of the newly-born "enviromentalist" movement, focusing around theories which had at the time not been tested in any empirical environment at all, regarding the potential for chemical buildup in plants, animals and humans from residue of chemicals being introduced into the environment.

Despite the fact that Ms. Carson had no experience as a scientist, no technical understanding of chemistry, biology, or botany, she took it upon herself to write a book called Silent Spring, which was published in 1962. Lacking any form of evidentiary argument to support her theories, she just made it up, literally: Silent Spring is a work of fiction, the story of a small town which did not exist anywhere but in Carson's mind where the populace is killed off as the result of DDT being sprayed on crops.

(to be fair to Ms. Carson, Silent Spring was never presented as anything but a work of fiction -- it was the American public's "War of the Worlds" mentality that lead to what happened next.)

The book sold millions and millions of copies. Ms. Carson was considered an international heroine of sorts. She received the Albert Schweitzer award for her work.

And she also signed the death warrant for tens of thousands of people around the globe, because just like we are today, the US in 1962 was an overstuffed, pushy little dictator when it came to global affairs, and DDT was quickly eradicated from virtually every country on earth. Malaria outbreaks caused by resurging mosquito populations and a medical industry not prepared to handle it (malaria can cause death, but is not a death sentence itself, especially if one gets proper treatment) in terms of manpower, distribution, supplies, etc.

Another example of this sort of knee-jerk behaviour is the ban on cyclamates. Cyclamates are considered to be the most effective sugar substitute ever devised by man, far better than the currently-available aspartame and saccharin.

In the early 1970's, reasearchers determined that cyclamates caused cancer in lab rats. (this was, if I am not mistaken, the first such "it causes cancer in lab rats!" campaign.)

After marginal debate and no cross-reference, cyclamates were banned from production and distribution in the US.

Deeper probing showed how inherently flawed the research supporting the alleged danger of cyclamates: in order for a human being to consume a comparable amount of cyclamates as was injected into the rats, one would have to drink 750 12-oz cans of diet soda within a 24-hour period. Leave off the fact that that much water would cause kidney failure, or that that much sugar would cause a fatal case of diabetic shock and that the person in question would never live to see the cancer claim him. Yet, no mentio of lifting the ban on cyclamates was raised, because they are, um, real dangerous to thirsty rats or something.

I final kick in the nuts was that i nthe early 90's it came out that even that shitty research had been tampered with in order to support the argument -- and yet the ban on cyclamates still was not lifted or questioned.

Mind you, it's not because I'm a big fan of cyclamates -- never tried them, being born in 1971 and rather partial to tit in my early years as opposed to TAB cola. My point is, that the questionable and sometimes outright falsified research which gives these movements their momentum is not a rational basis for making judgment.

Did DDT hurt the eagle? No idea.

Did malaria kill tens of thousands of human beings needlessly. Without a shadow of a doubt. There is no argument, left, right, libertarian, religious, philosohpical or otherwise, that can refute this horrible and sad fact.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>As to why the article is a farce, if I undertand the thrust, we should continue to use dangerous materials because we are afraid of innovation?? Is this the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" deal??

You don't maintain a leadership position with that attitude.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, the behaviour demonstrated by caving in every time a lobbyist takes a dump is not a matter of being "afraid of innovation." Modern society follows a doctrine called the "Precautionary Principle" (far from a philosophical abstract, it is now standard dogma in virtually all research.) The Precautionary Principle, simply put, states that scientific experimentation should only proceed if there is a guarantee that the outcome will not be harmful.

Because that is of course an impoosible thing, what happens is, existing "potentially harmful" situations are forced to change to a "potentially less harmful" solution. This was of course the case with the two seperate incidents which led to both of the shuttle tragedies. But what the EPA cannot be bothered to protect, is those pesky humans. Spotted owls? Hell yeah. People with spots? Isolate them before they infect the endangered three-dicked hyenas we're protecting!

Interestingly enough, a seminar was conducted this year called Panic Attack: Interrogating our Obsession with Risk in the UK. Some of the top scientific minds of the world were in attendance, including many staunch advocates of the Precautionary Principle. The participants were asked to make up a list of things with which we would currently be doing without, had the PP been in place at the time of their discovery.

Some notable inclusions:

The airplane, air conditioning, AC electrical power, antibitotics, aspirin, the bicycle, blood transfusion procese, CAT scans, chlorine, high-voltage power grids, the internal combustion engine, the jet engine, the vaccination for measles, polio, rabies and smallpox; nuclear power, oil power, open-heart surgery, organ transplants, penicillin, radar, space exploration (which would have made this whole thread never start lol) stem cell research, and X-Ray technology

And that's just a small sample, and as world-rekown pediatrician Adam Finn stated,

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Pretty much everything would have been prevented or limited under the Precautionary Principle, as there is nothing we do that has no theoretical risk, and nearly everything carries some actual risk.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is the mentality behind the Precautionary Principal that led to the banning of DDT and the deaths of tens of thousands of people from malaria, the banning of cyclamates i nfavour of a "natural" substance that is an addictive sedative that has caused more health problems and led to more deaths than any regulator could have dreamed of, and of random EPA dictates stating that a given shuttle part is "unsafe" for the planet, despite the EPA's generally apalling lack of knowledge about anything having to do with nature.

Holy fvck this is a long post. I'm going to hope the point is made and take a mastrubation break -- got to keep that prostate strong (thanks for the excuse, er tip KMAN!)


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very poignant post!!! i heard the space shuttle/enviromentalist debacle on rush about two weeks ago. not enuff people know the damage the militant enviromentalist have caused -- in several avenues of life.

kudos my friend!

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Here's a good example of the sort of havoc the Precautionary Principle can reap on science: NASA is struggling with all manner of new "safety measures" for the replacement for the space shuttle, including various schemes for re-entry pods, detachable bulkheads, and more.

Story here.

No one can get it through their head that due to the extreme overall risk levels of space travel in general, once you've reached "oh shit" phase you pretty much go directly to "we're f*cked" phase, do not land on 'Go,' do not collect 200 Ferengi lats. Every one of these ideas have been run through the program at some point, and they all come out as unsuited for a ship the size of a re-entry capable orbiter. If we were floating around big Battlestar Galactica type ships it would be a whole different story, but the key to getting in and out of the earth's atmosphere with any marginal degree of ease and safety is to pack light. You add too much to the design and you reach the ________ Limit (can't think what it's called offhand), where the mass of the fuel required to lift all that other mass out of orbit is so great that the fuel itself becomes a liability, and the design is rendered unworkable.

It's space travel. You want to stay safe? Sit at home and post on forums all day.


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